{"id":198,"date":"2016-01-14T05:12:41","date_gmt":"2016-01-14T05:12:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/?p=198"},"modified":"2016-02-13T13:18:43","modified_gmt":"2016-02-13T13:18:43","slug":"failure-to-launch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/2016\/01\/14\/failure-to-launch\/","title":{"rendered":"Failure to launch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I never saw the movie Failure to Launch, but unlike the main character in the film we actually WANT to leave our house\u00a0\u00a0but can&#8217;t due to mechanical issues. \u00a0To recap:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>We bought a used 2011 GMC 3500 truck on Dec 8 after the dealer had dealt with a check engine light related to the exhaust system (I know, I know&#8230;.it sounds so stupid now but I did it). \u00a0They replaced the DEF injector and NOx sensor #1.<\/li>\n<li>On Dec 21 <a href=\"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/2015\/12\/21\/goose-guitar\/\">after 57 miles the check engine light came on<\/a>\u00a0and we took it back to the dealer<\/li>\n<li>$800 later we had a new DEF tank and heater and were <a href=\"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/2015\/12\/27\/fixed\/\">rolling again<\/a>\u00a0Dec 27.<\/li>\n<li>After about 150 miles the <a href=\"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/2016\/01\/06\/hitch-in-the-plans\/\">check engine light comes on again<\/a> Jan 6<\/li>\n<li>After a week in the shop and me calling every day to figure out what they found, today (Jan 13) they say that the catalytic converter (aka SCR), diesel particulate filter (DPF) and NOx sensor #2 must be replaced to the tune of $4200. \u00a0Oh, and it will take a week to get the parts.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>My first reaction is that <em>I feel like I was sold a vehicle that was known to be bad<\/em>. \u00a0I want justice. \u00a0Three check engine lights in 200 miles&#8230;.there is no way this JUST started happening now. \u00a0 I don&#8217;t think there is anyone to blame but me. \u00a0With a check engine light I should have stayed far away!! \u00a0But still I feel like somebody knew this was a lemon.<\/p>\n<p>My next reaction is to ask, <em>is that REALLY the problem<\/em>? \u00a0The current error is an &#8220;exhaust fluid quality poor&#8221; message and I believe the tech is following the procedure laid out in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dieselplace.com\/forum\/63-gm-diesel-engines\/365-duramax-fifth-generation-2011-lml\/449361-pip5007-exhaust-fluid-quality-poor-message-difficult-clear.html\">PIP5007<\/a>. \u00a0When you get to the end of the procedure it says &#8220;If all conditions above appear to be functioning normally, SCR replacement may be required but is a <strong>very rare occurrence<\/strong>&#8221; (emphasis added by me). \u00a0If you read the entire PIP5007 forum topic linked above you will find many who say\u00a0just replacing BOTH NOx sensors usually fixes the problem. \u00a0And it seems to make sense. \u00a0From my understanding of the system (about half way down the page\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.maxxtorque.com\/2010\/12\/2011-duramax-lml-review-built-to-tow.html\">here<\/a> is a description and diagram) \u00a0a properly running system will have a large delta between NOx sensor #1 (at the beginning of the exhaust system) and NOx sensor #2 (after the SCR). \u00a0When there is a small delta it <strong>can<\/strong> mean that the SCR is bad&#8230;.but the engineer in me says it could also mean that NOx sensor #2 is bad. \u00a0Compared to the DPF and SCR, the cost of the NOx sensor is wiz in the ocean. \u00a0So perhaps we just replace NOx #2 and see if everything tests out? \u00a0Where in that document\u00a0does it say that the DPF should be replaced?<\/p>\n<p>My third reaction is to ask, <em>do I cut my losses and trade the thing in for something else<\/em>? \u00a0But this just seems so wrong on so many levels. \u00a0Such a waste of money.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe\u00a0I suck it up and have everything\u00a0replaced. \u00a0Then I have an entirely new exhaust system. \u00a0It should come with a hefty parts and labor warranty from GMC so any other problems with it will be covered right? \u00a0Like I&#8217;m buying an extended warranty on the exhaust system. \u00a0By the way, we did purchase an extended warranty for the truck. \u00a0I really did not want to but since I didn&#8217;t want truck issues to spoil our trip, I bit. \u00a0Its a great plan except for the one extra page that says &#8220;diesel exhaust system not covered&#8221;. \u00a0Have I told you how I believe bikes are superior to the automobile?<\/p>\n<p>And <strong>your<\/strong> reaction is probably, (a) <em>you should not have bought that truck in the first place<\/em> and (b) <em>if people read this blog they won&#8217;t after too many posts like this one<\/em>. \u00a0Touche!<\/p>\n<p>So let me wrap up with the good. \u00a0Our family is happy and healthy. \u00a0We have awesome family, friends, and neighbors. \u00a0I have a job. \u00a0We live in a free country. \u00a0We have plenty of food to eat, clean water to drink and comfy shelter over our head. \u00a0We even have a renter (not a done deal yet but looks really good!!).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I never saw the movie Failure to Launch, but unlike the main character in the film we actually WANT to leave our house\u00a0\u00a0but can&#8217;t due to mechanical issues. \u00a0To recap: We bought a used 2011 GMC 3500 truck on Dec 8 after the dealer had dealt with a check engine light related to the exhaust [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[9],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=198"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":200,"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/198\/revisions\/200"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=198"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=198"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thewachs.com\/wachsacrossamerica\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=198"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}